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La première pierre de la Grande mosquée de Marseille a été posée

La future grande mosquee de Marseille

La première pierre de la Grande mosquée de Marseille a été posée jeudi dans le nord de la ville, marquant une nouvelle étape de ce projet au long cours qui doit devenir l’un des plus grands édifices musulmans de France, a constaté un journaliste de l’AFP. “Si Marseille a ses mosquées, il fallait une mosquée significative, une grande mosquée, les catholiques ont la cathédrale et la basilique, les juifs ont la grande synagogue”, tout comme les bouddhistes et les protestants ont leur propre grand édifice religieux, a déclaré le maire (UMP) de Marseille, Jean-Claude Gaudin.

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The Trinity and what the Nature/Essence of God is

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Here I include some old material but only for the convenience of new readers to the blog and refreshing of knowledge of older readers.

About God being One

We have the famous Shema Yisroel ( Hear,O Israel ) which religious Jews pray everyday.

Deuteronomy  6:4-9:

“ Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is ECHOD ( one ). You will love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might. And these words that I command you today will be on your heart. You will teach them diligently to your children, and will talk of them when you sit in your house, and when you walk by the way, and when you lie down, and when you rise. You will bind them as a sign on your hand, and they will be as frontlets between your eyes. You will write them on the doorposts of your house and on your gates. ”

HOW THE WORD ECHOD ( ONE ) IS USED IN THE OT:

The Hebrew word ECHOD can also be used to mean a PLURALITY in a UNITY, like in:

Genesis 2:24:

” That is why a man leaves his father and mother and clings to his wife, and the two of them become ECHOD. ” That is in essence what the Trinity says:

1. That there is a plurality in the unity of God.

2. That the ECHOD or oneness of God exists in 3 persons because they all have the same NATURE or ESSENCE of God.

God is like a Triangle

Jesus said:

” What is impossible for man, is possible for God. ”

He was a literary genius who had a way with words, like: ” Everything is possible to he who believes ” and ” It is better to give than to receive. ” Now God is like a triangle, the whole triangle being God and the triangle has 3 points.

Each point is EQUALLY DISTANT from each other, the sides being equal and one point would be God the Father, another God the Son and another God the Holy Spirit: one God but 3 distinct persons.

A Mathematical Argument for the Trinity

In the Athanasian Creed it is stated that there is one God but 3 persons and each person is God, yet God the Father is not the same as God the Son and so on. An argument used against the Trinity is that of MATHEMATICAL ARITHMETIC:

1 + 1 + 1= 3

In mathematics the rules are true, valid and logical. “But what is impossible for man, is possible for God”as Jesus said. What if God goes by mathematical rules that are different but just as valid, true and logical as that of arithmetic?

And Another Mathematical Argument

We have:

2 x 2 x 2= 8

3 x 3 x 3= 27

But when we the entity of one,just 1, similar to GOD is ONE, we have:
1 x 1 x 1= 1

And Another Mathematical Argument

In mathematics we have the concept called infinity, symbolized by something like oo, but together. God can be said to be an infinity: infinite in power, goodness and knowledge, so:

INFINITY + INFINITY + INFINITY= INFINITY
oo + oo + oo = oo

Here we have an argument based on arithmetic.

What do you mean by “Having the Same Nature or Essence”?

It means:

A) ONLY God can do certain things than NO ONE else can. Only God can create SOMETHING out of NOTHING. There we have the BIG BANG theory of the origin of the universe, which is confirmed by all the available data we have today. SATAN can NOT create something out of nothing,he uses material ALREADY in existence.

B ) ONLY God can DESTROY something FOREVER. SATAN can kill somebody but God can easily RESTORE him to life, and Satan can do nothing about.

C ) ONLY God can NEVER be destroyed. Everything else can, even Satan. So the 3 persons of the Trinity have that same essence or nature.

Again I have given you mathematical arguments that are valid where 3 entities can be combined and yet still result in the SAME entity.

3 Passages in the OT where we have 2 Yahwehs at the Same Time

The OT says Yahweh is ONE, but yet we have 3 passages in it with 2 Yahwehs.Why did not the Jews change them or take them out if the were in the habit of changing the OT, as Muslims claim? The reason is they RESPECTED the OT too much.

As you know,in the Trinity we have One God and 3 persons: God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. In the OT we have 3 passages where TWO YAHWENS exist at the SAME time, in other words in the OT God is one,yet we have 2 persons or beings who are Yahweh and are separate:read :

1. Genesis 9:23-26

2. Zachariah 3:1-2

3. Zachariah 2:10-11

Great Debate

It is “Does God Exist?” between David Wood(ex-atheist,Christian,of answeringmuslims.com) vs John Loftus(atheist,ex-Christian):

A Great Book

It is “The Case for Israel” by Jewish intellectual Alan Dershowitz(American):intelligent,informed.You may agree with him or not but he deserves attention.Here is the book(Free)even though it is incomplete:

http://books.google.ca/books?id=Dunx_i1P6fMC&printsec=frontcover&dq=dershowitz+and+anti-israel+is+anti+semitism&source=bl&ots=uo5rCwxjhy&sig=W-LaAjQ8k3ieg5jSNgQxRH3TTnM&hl=en&ei=WJP2S6KbOIOdlgf4hLDVCg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=8&ved=0CDcQ6AEwBw#v=onepage&q&f=false

 

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