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Contre un Argument du Musulman Shabir Ally sur le Contenu du Document Q

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Le musulman Shabir Ally dans ses debats contre le christianisme a dit que le contenu du document Q va contre l’idee que les premiers chretiens croyaient que Jesus ait ressuscite.

Le Document Q

Ce sont 230 versets communs a Matthieu et Luc mais absents de Marc.On croit que c’etait un recueil des dictons de Jesus ecrit vers 50 apres J.
Q fut utilise par Matthieu et par Luc.Dans Q Jesus dit qu’il (le Fils de l’Homme) va mourir dans le dicton sur le Signe de Jonas.

Pour savoir quels sont les dictons par Jesus dans Q:

Ils son plus de 50 dictons,cliquez sur le mot ici:

 

Exemple 1:

Matthieu 12:40:

“Car, de même que Jonas fut trois jours et trois nuits dans le ventre d’un grand poisson, de même le Fils de l’homme sera trois jours et trois nuits dans le sein de la terre.”

Exemple 2:

Luc 11:29-30:

“Comme le peuple s’amassait en foule, il se mit à dire: “Cette génération est une génération méchante; elle demande un miracle; il ne lui sera donné d’autre miracle que celui de Jonas.

Car, de même que Jonas fut un signe pour les Ninivites, de même le Fils de l’homme en sera un pour cette génération.””

Le Document Q a-t-il existe?

On ne sait pas a 100%,on semble que oui.On sait que Luc a utilise plusieurs ecrits pour ecrire son evangile,il le dit.

Luc 1:1-4:

Plusieurs ayant entrepris de composer un récit des événements qui se sont accomplis parmi nous,
suivant ce que nous ont transmis ceux qui ont été des témoins oculaires dès le commencement et sont devenus des ministres de la parole,il m’a aussi semblé bon, après avoir fait des recherches exactes sur toutes ces choses depuis leur origine, de te les exposer par écrit d’une manière suivie, excellent Théophile,afin que tu reconnaisses la certitude des enseignements que tu as reçus.”

Des Exemples de l’Antiquite des Recueils des Dictons:

Faire un recueil de dictons de X personne etait une coutume.

Exemple 1:

Les Dictons de Sextus:

C’est un recueil de 104 dictons attribues a Sextus,un philosophe pythagoreen,ecrit soit au 2e siecle,soit au 3e siecle apres Jesus.

Exemple 2:

Les Dictons des Rabbins (le “Pirkei Avot”):

Au 2e siecle apres J. on a fait un recueil des dictons des rabbins fameux appele le Pirket Avot qui fut inclu dans le Mishna.Le Mishna est la premiere fois que la loi orale des juifs fut ecrite,auparavant c’etait seulement connue de memoire.

Exemple 3:

L’Evangile de Thomas (gnostique):

Ecrit apres 175 c’est 114 dictons attribues a Jesus,et 50% sont des dictons trouves dans Marc,Matthieu,Luc et Jean.Les autres sont gnostiques.

Exemple 4:

Le Manuel/Enchiridion d’Epictete(50-125) (52 dictons):

Il etait un philosophe stoicien,ex-esclave,qui etait boiteux,on dit,a cause de la torture de son maitre.Il n’a jamais ecrit mais son disciple Arrien(95-175) (qui est aussi fameux pour une biographie d’Alexandre le Grand) a fait un recueil de ses dictons.

Exemple 5:

L’Evangile de Philippe (ecrit entre 150-350):

C’est un recueil gnostique de 127 dictons attribues a Jesus.

Meme hors d’Europe on faisait aussi un recueil des dictons pendant l’antiquite:

Exemple:

Confucius (550-480 avant Jesus)

Il est la contribution chinoise la plus brillante a la civilisation.Un grand philosophe.Apres sa mort ses disciples et les disciples de ses disciples ont fait un recueil des ses dictions appele “Les Analectes”.On y trouve la regle d’or enonce 500 ans avant Jesus.

L’Argument du musulman Shabir Ally:

Il est sur youtube dans plusieurs debats.Il dit,en essence: “Q n’a pas un dicton qui dit que le Fils de l’Homme(Jesus) va mourir et va ressusciter au troisieme jour.Cela va contre l’idee que Jesus ait dit une telle chose,que les premiers chretiens avaient la mort et la resurrection de Jesus comme partie de leur croyance.”

Manque Total d’Erudition

Tout erudit serieux du NT sait le suivant:

1.On n’a pas Q.C’est une theorie seulement.

2.Comme on n’a pas le texte,c’est impossible dire:”Q n’avait pas un dicton ou Jesus predit sa mort et sa resurrection au troisieme jour.Le dire serait une irresponsabilite intellectuelle“.

3.Cela est precisement ce que Shabir Ally affirme dans ses debats.

De nouveau,on ne sait pas si le Q originel qu’on a reconstruit contient le 100% des dictons du recueil,le 90% des dictons,le 75%,le 50%.

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Was Samson a Terrorist,as the Muslim Shabir Ally says?

In a debate between Shabir Ally and Shmuley Boteach,a famous Orthodox Jewish rabbi,the former said that if one says the Palestinians are terrorists and condemns them,then the Jews have to condemn Samson as a terrorist since he killed people in an act of suicide.The debate is here,1st segment:

Why are Hamas,Hezbullah and Al-Qaida terrorists?

Hamas,Hezbollah and Al-Qaida are terrorists because they intentionally kill innocent men,women and children as part of their military plan.They try to kill as many as they can.

Samson’s Case was Different

In the Samson story we have a different situation,it turns out that Samson was made a prisoner by the Philistines.And they had contempt for Yahweh.In the story they had a religious festival in honor of their god and they decided to bring out Samson as proof that their god was greater than God.It was a religious ceremony offensive to God,and Samson knew it.

He decided to show God was greater and asked God to help him by punishing the Philisitnes.Here is the story:

Judges 16:23-30:

“Now the rulers of the Philistines assembled:

1.To offer a great sacrifice to Dagon their god

2.And to celebrate, saying, “Our god has delivered Samson, our enemy, into our hands.”

3.When the people saw him, they praised their god, saying,”Our god has delivered our enemy into our hands,the one who laid waste our land and multiplied our slain.”

While they were in high spirits, they shouted, “Bring out Samson to entertain us.” So they called Samson out of the prison, and he performed for them. When they stood him among the pillars, Samson said to the servant who held his hand, “Put me where I can feel the pillars that support the temple, so that I may lean against them.””

The text says nothing about children being there,only men and women inside the Temple and on its Roof

“Now the temple:

1.Was crowded with men and women

2.All the rulers of the Philistines were there

3.And on the roof were about 3000 men and women watching Samson perform.

Then Samson prayed to the LORD, “O Sovereign LORD, remember me. O God, please strengthen me just once more, and let me with one blow get revenge on the Philistines for my two eyes.” Then Samson reached toward the two central pillars on which the temple stood. Bracing himself against them, his right hand on the one and his left hand on the other, Samson said, “Let me die with the Philistines!” Then he pushed with all his might, and down came the temple on the rulers and all the people in it. Thus he killed many more when he died than while he lived. ”

Comment

Notice it says the ones killed were men and women,it doesn’t mention children.It was a religious ceremony it which only adults participated and they were saying a false god was greater than God.

Either Shabir Ally is a less than competent and able scholar of Judaism by comparing  Samson to modern-day Islamic terrorists (after 20 years of study) or he was misleading his audience.

Debate between 2 Friends

Michael Brown and Shmuley Boteachare both Jewish and Boteach has a high opinion of Brown as a person and of course they are Jewish brothers,but they do debate.Here are 2 short debates of about 15 min each in total:

Debate 1:

Debate 2:

Check out a Jewish Website that is for Jesus

It is Jews for Jesus:

http://jewsforjesus.org/

One of their latest articles is:“Jesus the Jewish Martyr?”(about Jewish intellectuals accepting Jesus as a fellow Jewish brother):

http://www.jewsforjesus.org/blog/20100724

 

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Muslim or Muhammadan?

S.3:52. When Jesus found
Unbelief on their part
He said: “Who will be
My helpers to (the work
Of) God?” Said the Disciples:
“We are God’s helpers:
We believe in God,
And do thou bear witness
That we are Muslims.

According to the above ayah, believers in Allah before the time / existence of Muhammad were already “Muslim!” How then does Islam say to become a Muslim ‘one must believe in Allah and his messenger?’ Even the pagan Arabs believed in Allah and were still persecuted nonetheless!

Are the millions who claim to be “Muslims” actually not Muslims at all in the Quranic sense, but followers and worshipers of Muhammad? Are they “monotheist” in the sense that they really worship no one else other than Muhammad? Or does Islam commit the very sin it condemns others for “Shirk?”

This is a question to ponder on, for if one lays their emotions aside and looks at what the Quran teaches on this, the answer may be quite shocking to the serious inquirer!

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100% Proof Tariq Ramadan,Muslim Intellectual Leader,is a False Defender of Human Rights

The PROBLEM with the Muslim intellectual leaders in the West.Tariq Ramadan is the most famous Muslim intellectual in the WEST,the leader of the new generation.He has quite a number of times in his books CONDEMNED the MUSLIM TERRORISTS.I have read it.In that he is similar to MAGDI ALLAM.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tariq_Ramadan

Magdi Allam

He was a Muslim intellectual,not religious,from Egypt,who worked for one of the best Italian journals and offers similarities with TARIQ RAMADAN.They BOTH condemn the terrorists:Hizbullah,Hamas,Al-Qaida,Taliban.

Later in 2008 he became a Christian and was publicly baptized by the Pope.He wrote:“My Conversion.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magdi_Allam

Magdi Allam wrote alot against them while he was a Muslim,unlike Ramadan:

1.Jihad in Italy:a Journey through Radical Islam(2002)

2.Kamikaze made in Europe:Will the West defeat Islamic Terrorists?(2004)

3.Conquering Fear:My Life against Islamic Terrorism and Western Unconsciousness(2005)

4.I love Israel,but do Italians love her?(2006)

5.Long live Israel(2007)

Because of that he has security protection since he has received death threats.

The Ramadan Case

He has been accused for quite some time by Caroline Fourest (French feminist and journalist, in her book Brother Tariq) and also by Magdi Allam of not being sincere,of really being in favor of the terrorists.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caroline_Fourest

Recently,in 2009,Ramadan was fired from Erasmus University in Holland because he had for a considerable time also been WORKING for an IRANIAN STATE TV STATION.It was financed by the GOVERNMENT OF IRAN.

He had a WEEKLY show there where he spoke about Islam called “Islam and Life”.He was also fired from his post as “advisor on integration”by the city of Rotterdam because of it.He called it “a NAIVE and SIMPLISTIC” decision.

SO?

Ok,now,Ramadam condemns the terrorists yet works for a government that:

1.Finances the Shiah terrorist group Hezbullah that kills innocent people.

2.That violates human rights in Iran daily.

3.That punishes apostasy from Islam by death.

4.Persecutes and kills the BAHAIS,a very peaceful group,for no reason.

5.Whose leader Ahmadinejad is a fanatical judeophobe.

An Imaginary Situation

Ramadan says he is against racism.Suppose we still:

1.Had APARTHEID in South Africa?

2.Would Ramadan ACCEPT to work for a SOUTH AFRICAN STATE TV STATION that violates human rights and practices racism?I don’t think so.

Another Imaginary Situation

He considers:

1.The Israeli government to be EVIL for X reasons.

2.Would he ACCEPT working for an ISRAELI STATE TV STATION?No.

It is obvious by his action that he secretly agrees with the terrorists.

WOULD MAGDI ALLAM HAVE ACCEPTED WORKING FOR IRAN?

No,I really don’t think so.He and Caroline Fourest were right about him.And Ramadan is considered a “moderate” but it is not true.

Great Debate by David Wood vs Ali Ataie

It is on “Who was Muhammed?”

His blog is:

http://www.answeringmuslims.com/

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Jesus in the Quran and the Bible

S:3.59 Lo! the likeness of Jesus with Allah is as the likeness of Adam. He created him of dust, then He said unto him: Be! and he is.
60 (This is) the truth from thy Lord (O Muhammad), so be not thou of those who waver.

In his “Outline” to the above topic, Jamal Badawi, Ph.D gives a study of the differences and comparatives between Jesus as viewed from both Texts. Here, i present this study and another view.

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Allah is a demon

Allah, a demon?

The Satanic Verses in Qur’an

Sura an-Najm (Star) 53:19-22

When Muhammad and his community came under severe persecution, eighty-three of his followers who had no protection emigrated from Mecca to Ethiopia, taking refuge in the ancient Christian country, Abyssinia.1 Under increasing boycotts and pressure, Muhammad went through a time of weakness and accepted a compromise by acknowledging the existence of three pagan goddesses alongside Allah: Lat, Uzza, and Manat.2 The account of this is in Sura an-Najm (Star) 53:19-22.

This indirect confession of polytheism, with the statement that Allah was involved with female goddesses while Muhammad and his people were left with men, was cynically discussed by author Salman Rushdi. He made the impure account even more obscene. Therefore, his book was regarded as blasphemous by all Muslims.

When the inhabitants of Mecca heard the confession of Muhammad about the existence of the ancient goddesses inside the Kaba, they immediately revoked their ban on him. Those who had emigrated to Abyssinia (Ethiopia) started to return home after hearing about Muhammad’s confession and the changes in Mecca. But when they arrived, they were shocked to hear that Muhammad regretted his confession and that he considered it as falling prey to the whispering of Satan. Thus, today Islam considers Sura an-Najm (Star) 53:19-22 as the Satanic Verses, rejected afterwards by Muhammad. Salman Rushdi did not invent these verses. They have been in the Qur’an since its inception.

In Sura Hajj (Pilgrimage) 22:52-53, Muhammad confessed his mistake, supposing that all prophets were tempted by Satan who would inspired them with his verses, as if they were actually revealed by God. But later on Allah abrogated these Satanic Verses with new revelations and judges his people according to these new verse. In Islam Allah permits such demonic inspiration to test weak Muslims or to cut off those with hardened hearts.

Never did We send a messenger or a prophet before thee, but, when he framed a desire, Satan threw some (vanity) into his desire: but Allah will cancel anything (vain) that Satan throws in, and Allah will confirm (and establish) His Signs: for Allah is full of Knowledge and Wisdom:
That He may make the suggestions thrown in by Satan, but a trial for those in whose hearts is a disease and who are hardened of heart: verily the wrong-doers are in a schism far (from the Truth): Hajj (Pilgrimage) 22:52-53. Yusuf ‘Ali’s translation

The true, vital issue about the Satanic verses in the Qur’an is this. If Muhammad were unable to distinguish Satan’s voice from God’s voice, could there then be verses in the Qur’an which Muhammad assumed were from God but were really from Satan? Maybe the whole Qur’an is Satanic in origin, in spite of Muhammad’s conviction that it was Allah who revealed the suras to him.

In Islam, the angel Gabriel is regarded as the Holy Spirit. For Muslims, no Holy Spirit exists as described in the Gospel. They believe that the spirit of God was originally created like angels and demons. The Muslim’s spirit of God has a beginning in time. There is no guidance by the spirit, no comfort, no everlasting life, and no spirit of Truth, because the Holy Spirit is only considered to be the Angel Gabriel.

The spirit in Islam, therefore, is not a divine one, but a spirit effecting deep devotion, repetitive worship, many prayers, fasting, almsgiving, and pilgrimages (Hajj). But there is no life or true Holy Spirit. There is only death.

You foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? Before your very eyes Jesus Christ was clearly portrayed as crucified.
I would like to learn just one thing from you: Did you receive the Spirit by observing the law, or by believing what you heard?
Are you so foolish? After beginning with the Spirit, are you now trying to attain your goal by human effort?
Have you suffered so much for nothing– if it really was for nothing?
Does God give you his Spirit and work miracles among you because you observe the law, or because you believe what you heard? Galatians 3:1-5 (NIV)

The god of Islam is a demon who appropriated for himself the name of Allah. By means of deep religiosity and devotion, this Allah has bound more than a billion Muslims in religious slavery, barring them from the gift of salvation in Christ. Indeed he has vaccinated them against understanding the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Found on  http://www.answersaboutfaith.com/english/issues/satanic/satanic.htm

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Maimonides' Opinion of Muhammad:he is Ha-Meshuga("the Madman")

The greatest Jewish  philosopher of the Middle Ages was Maimonides(1138-1204)

(Moses ben Maimon/Moses Son of Maimon).

He was born in Cordoba,Spain,just like Averroes(1126-1198),his contemporary.

His family had to flee Spain due to the Almohads,who ruled from 1147-1269,a fanatical Muslim group that persecuted Christians and Jews.In Judaism they say:

“From Moses(Note:of the Bible) to Moses(Note:Moses ben Maimon) there is none like Moses.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maimonides

Islam for Dummies

In the books written by Muslim intellectuals they say Maimonides was well-treated by Muslims.It was true in Egypt,where his family settled,but not in Spain or Morocco,where the Almohads killed Jews.The same intellectuals are silent about what Maimonides really thought about Muhammad.

His Chefs D’Oeuvres

He wrote 2 great books:

1.Mishna Tora

Commentaries on Jewish law.

2.Guide for the Perplexed

A defense of Judaism.

The Epistle to the Jews of Yemen

The Jews of Yemen in Arabia were being persecuted and forced to become Muslim.They wrote to Maimonides for advice.His letter was Private,and it said:

1.That Jesus was a false Messiah and the son of a Jewish woman and a non-Jewish man.

2.That the affirmation that Muhammad was prophesized in the Old Testament was false.

3.That Muhammad was Ha-Meshuga,Hebrew for “the crazy man/lunatic/madman”.

Here is a link to the letter itself for reading:

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Epistle_to_Yemen

Norman Stillman

The Jewish-American historian Norman Stillman has written that many Jewish intellectuals of the Middle Ages called Mohammed with the title of Ha-Meshuga which in means Hebrew “the crazy man/lunatic/madman”.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Stillman

And if Maimonides had said to Muslims his True Opinion of Muhammad?

He would have been executed as a blasphemer,according to Islamic Law then.

 

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