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Reponse a un Argument Musulman que Revelation dit aux Chretiens d'agir avec Violence

Dans un debat (c’est a youtube) entre le chretien Jay Smith et le musulman Abdulah Andalusi sur laquelle des deux religions, le christianisme ou l’islam, etait la vraie religion de paix, Andalusi a cité Revelation 18:1-8 comme preuve que le christianisme est violent.

Le chapitre parle de l’avenir, d’une situation et d’un regime d’oppression, d’injustice contre les justes, les chretiens.Je vais montrer que l’emphase dans Revelation 18:1-8 est sur la justice, pas sur lavengeance, mais obtenir la justice d’un regime corrompu.

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Le Texte:

Revelation 18:1-8:

“Après cela, je vis descendre du ciel un autre ange, qui avait une grande autorité; et la terre fut éclairée de sa gloire.Il cria d’une voix forte, disant:” Elle est tombée, elle est tombée, Babylone la grande! Elle est devenue une habitation de démons, un repaire de tout esprit impur, un repaire de tout oiseau impur et odieux,parce que toutes les nations ont bu du vin de la fureur de son impudicité, et que les rois de la terre se sont livrés avec elle à l’impudicité, et que les marchands de la terre se sont enrichis par la puissance de son luxe.””

“Et j’entendis du ciel une autre voix qui disait:” Sortez du milieu d’elle, mon peuple, afin que vous ne participiez point à ses péchés, et que vous n’ayez point de part à ses fléaux.Car ses péchés se sont accumulés jusqu’au ciel, et Dieu s’est souvenu de ses iniquités.””

Puis,les versets soulignes par Andalusi comme preuve que le christianisme preche la violence

Verset 1:

Payez-la comme elle a payé, et rendez-lui au double selon ses oeuvres.”

Analyse:

On doit croire,selon Andalusi,etre une reference a la vengeance

Verset 2:

“Dans la coupe où elle a versé, versez-lui au double.”

“Autant elle s’est glorifiée et plongée dans le luxe, autant donnez-lui de tourment et de deuil. Parce qu’elle dit en son coeur: “Je suis assise en reine, je ne suis point veuve, et je ne verrai point de deuil!”

“A cause de cela, en un même jour, ses fléaux arriveront, la mort, le deuil et la famine, et elle sera consumée par le feu. Car il est puissant, le Seigneur Dieu qui l’a jugée.”

L’Explication:

On peut penser que les versets font reference a la lex talionis.La lex talionis sont 3 lois de la loi mosaique:

Exode 21:22-25:

“Si des hommes se querellent, et qu’ils heurtent une femme enceinte, et la fasse accoucher, sans autre accident, ils seront punis d’une amende imposée par le mari de la femme, et qu’ils paieront devant les juges.

Mais s’il y a un accident, tu donneras vie pour vie,oeil pour oeil, dent pour dent, main pour main, pied pour pied,brûlure pour brûlure, blessure pour blessure, meurtrissure pour meurtrissure.

Levitique 24:19-21:

“Si quelqu’un blesse son prochain, il lui sera fait comme il a fait:fracture pour fracture, oeil pour oeil, dent pour dent; il lui sera fait la même blessure qu’il a faite à son prochain.Celui qui tuera un animal le remplacera, mais celui qui tuera un homme sera puni de mort.”

Deuteronome 19:21:

“Tu ne jetteras aucun regard de pitié: oeil pour oeil, dent pour dent, main pour main, pied pour pied.”

Ce que Jesus (Dieu) a dit:

Il a dit que le group pharisien avait la bonne interpretation de la Loi Mosaique:

Matthieu 23:2-3:

“Les scribes et les pharisiens sont assis dans la chaire de Moïse.

Faites donc et observez tout ce qu’ils vous disent; mais n’agissez pas selon leurs oeuvres. Car ils disent, et ne font pas.”

La Lettre de la Loi et l’Esprit de la Loi:

Il y avait 4 groupes juifs differents dans la Palestine du 1e siecle:

1.Les esseniens
2.Les saduceens
3.Les zelotes
4.Les pharisiens

Les saduceens sur la Lex Talionis

Les saduceens etaient le groupe surtout chargé des fonctions du temple de Jerusalem. Ils ne croyaient pas a la resurrection des morts, ni a l’existence d’un paradis. La mort etait la mort, c’etait la fin de tout, point final.

Les saduceens disaient que la lex talionis etait litterale, on devait litteralement arracher un oeil pour un oeil perdu, arracher une dent pour une dent perdue,etc

Les pharisiens  sur la Lex Talionis

Les pharisiens etaient de l’avis que ce n’etait pas litteral. C’etait le prix d’un oeil pour un oeil perdu, le prix d’une dent pour une dent perdue. On devait savoir differencier entre la lettre de la loi et l’esprit (l’idee essentielle) de la loi.

Jesus (Dieu en personne) a dit que les pharisiens avaient la bonne interpretation.

La Loi Orale et la Loi Ecrite

La loi ecrite sont les 613 lois de la Loi Mosaique trouvées dans la Bible, elles ont eté ecrites.Mais les pharisiens croyaient et leurs descendants intellectuels (les juifs orthodoxes) sont d’accord que Dieu en meme temps qu’il avait fait la loi ecrite il avait dit une Loi Orale qui fut transmise oralement pendant des siecles jusqu’a etre ecrite et etre inclue dans le Talmud(500 apres J).

Les saduceens sur la Loi Orale

Ils disaient que ce n’etait pas vrai,la Loi Orale etait fausse.

Ce que la Loi Orale dit sur la Lex Talionis:

Que les lois de Lev 24:19-21/Exode 21:22-25/Deuteronome 19:21 signifient le prix monetaire d’un oeil pour un oeil perdu, le prix monetaire d’un dent pour une dent perdue,etc.

Conclusion

De nouveau l’emphase dans Revelation 18:1-8 est sur la justice, pas sur la vengeance, mais obtenir la justice d’un regime corrompu.

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Isaiah 9 and Jesus


In Isaiah 9 we have a prophecy.The JEWISH interpretation is that it is about king HEZEKIAH,who was the greatest Jewish king after David and Solomon.When Solomon died the kingdom was split in two:the KINGDOM of ISRAEL in the north,with 10 tribes and Samaria as its capital,and the KINGDOM of JUDAH in the south,with Jerusalem as its capital.The Kingdom of Israel was conquered by the Assyrian Empire in 722 BC,while the other one was conquered by the Babylonians in 586 BC,and Jerusalem and the first Temple of Jerusalem were destroyed.

THe Kingdom of ISRAEL(not Judah) was made up of the region of GALILEE in the north,which is next to Lebanon,and the region later known as Samaria,where the Samaritans lived.

THE PROPHECY

Isaiah 9:1-7:

” Nevertheless the gloom will not be upon her who is distressed,as when at first He lightly esteemed the land of Zebulun and the land of Naphtali, and afterward more heavily oppressed her. By the way of the sea, beyond the Jordan, in GALILEE of the Gentiles the people who walked in darkness HAVE SEEN a GREAT LIGHT;

Those who dwelt in the land of the shadow of death, upon them a LIGHT has shined.

You have multiplied the nation and increased its joy;they rejoice before You according to the joy of harvest, as men rejoice when they divide the spoil. For You have broken the yoke of his burden and the staff of his shoulder, The rod of his oppressor, as in the day of Midian. For every warrior’s sandal from the noisy battle, and garments rolled in blood, will be used for burning and fuel of fire.

For to us a Child is born, to us a SON is given;and the government will be upon His shoulder and His name will be called:Wonderful Counselor,Mighty God,Everlasting Father,Prince of Peace.

Of the increase of HIS GOVERNMENT and PEACE there will be NO END, upon the THRONE of DAVID and over His kingdom, to order it and establish it with judgment and justice from that time forward FOREVER. The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this. ”

JEWISH POSITION:it’s about KING HEZEKIAH

HEZEKIAH was a great king and he ruled over the Kingdom of JUDAH as a man of God from 715 till 687 BC.Notice that when he BEGAN ruling the Kingdom of Israel(which included GALILEE) had already been conquered in 722 BC. Hezekiah NEVER ruled over GALILEE,he had no connection with it.Isaiah 9 talks of a great saint appearing in GALILEE.

HIS RULED ENDED

Also we have the phrases “no end” regarding his rule and peace,”throne of David” which means a Jewish king( like the Messiah is supposed to be) and “forever”. Hezekiah’s rule came to an end,it didn’t last forever.There is a rabbinic argument which is so-so that it does not really mean forever,but that is what the text says literally.The only Jewish king who is supposed to rule forever is the Messiah.

COULD IT BE ABOUT JESUS?

We know Jesus began his 3 year career,very short as prophets go,in GALILEE.He had lived most of his life in NAZARETH,which is in GALILEE.

MUSLIM OBJECTION

It says:” For to us a Child is born, to us a Son is given;and the government will be upon His shoulder and His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. ”

They say Jesus has NEVER been given the title Eternal Father nor Wonderful Counselor,though he has been called God. He has been given the title “Prince of Peace”.It is true that in the OT God is given the title FATHER about 15 times,but Christians have never called Jesus that(Father).When a Christian says Father he means God the Father, the first person of the Trinity.So the Muslims say ISAIAH 9 can NOT refer to Jesus.

IT SEEMS TO MAKE REFERENCE TO THE TRINITY

Notice we have 4 titles:

1.Wonderful Counselor.

2.Mighty God.

3.Eternal Father.

4.Prince of Peace.

God the HOLY SPIRIT has the function of giving SPIRITUAL STRENGTH and WISDOM,so he would merit the title WONDERFUL COUNSELOR. And the we have God the Father(Eternal Father) and Jesus(Prince of Peace),plus the general title of Mighty God.

Matthew 4:12:-16:

That’s why it says:

“Now when he heard that John had been arrested,he withdrew into Galilee.And leaving Nazareth he went and lived in Capernaum by the sea, in the territory of Zebulun and Naphtali,so that what was spoken by the prophet ISAIAH might be fulfilled:

“The land of Zebulun and the land of Naphtali,the way of the sea, beyond the Jordan, Galilee of the Gentiles,the people dwelling in darkness have seen a great light,and for those dwelling in the region and(J) shadow of death,on them a light has dawned.”

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Jay Smith on Speaker's Corner, Hyde Park, debating with muslims

Fascinating debate, what is the religion of peace? Islam or Christianity? Jay Smith takes on the muslims on Hyde Park, Speaker’s Corner in London, every Sunday.

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Motivational and Inspirational Quotes by "Norman Vincent Peale"

The power of positive thinking

 
You can have peace of mind, improved health and an ever-increasing flow of energy. Life can be full of joy and satisfaction.

 
The mind, ever the willing servant, will respond to boldness, for boldness, in effect, is a command to deliver mental resources.

 
Practice hope. As hopefulness becomes a habit, you can achieve a permanently happy spirit.

 
Those who are fired with an enthusiastic idea and who allow it to take hold and dominate their thoughts find that new worlds open for them. As long as enthusiasm holds out, so will new opportunities.

 
Live your life and forget your age.

 
People become really quite remarkable when they start thinking that they can do things. When they believe in themselves they have the first secret of success

 
People become really quite remarkable when they start thinking that they can do things. When they believe in themselves they have the first secret of success.

 
Change your thoughts and you change your world.

 
How you think about a problem is more important than the problem itself – so always think positively.

 
Practice loving people. It is true that this requires effort and continued practice, for some are not very lovable, or so it seems – with emphasis on “seems.” Every person has lovable qualities when you really learn to know him.

Cut the “im” out of impossible, leading that dynamic word standing out free and clear – possible.



Always remember that problems contain values that have improvement potential.



Problems are to the mind what exercise is to the muscles, they toughen and make strong.



The “as if” principle works. Act “as if” you were not afraid and you will become courageous, “as if” you could and you’ll find you can. Act “as if” you like a person and you’ll find a friendship.



Go forward confidently, energetically attacking problems, expecting favorable outcomes.



Anybody can do just about anything with himself that he really wants to and makes up his mind to do. We are all capable of greater things than we realize.



When you wholeheartedly adopt a ‘with all your heart’ attitude and go all out with the positive principle, you can do incredible things.



One way to become enthusiastic is to look for the plus sign. To make progress in any difficult situation, you have to start with what’s right about it and build on that.



Life’s blows cannot break a person whose spirit is warmed at the fire of enthusiasm.



Our happiness depends on the habit of mind we cultivate. So practice happy thinking every day. Cultivate the merry heart, develop the happiness habit, and life will become a continual feast.

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How to control your thoughts

 

It is a fact, it all starts in your mind. You wake up in the morning, tired, you’d rather stay in bed, and a heavy weight is upon you. A strange feeling of sadness, but you do not understand why you feel this way. Suddenly this dark cloud overshadows your thoughts and the darkness thickens. You feel lonely and empty. Even finding the strength to carry on seems overwhelming. And yet you do it, you get up, get ready for work, take the bus, the train, grab a coffee and a newspaper on your way to the office and gradually, the malaise vanishes, or rather fades away into the background. Workmates, friends, acquaintances, being socially acceptable seem to ease the pain and chatting away gives a momentary relief. But it is when you less expect it that a thought comes to your mind and stabs you in the heart. Suddenly you feel bad again, robbed from your happiness, and you cannot do anything. You seem to be controlled by your thoughts and your emotions.

Today I would like to spend a bit of time talking about the fact that we have the capacity to control our thoughts rather than being controlled by them. We are what we think. The thought patterns we entertain in our mind end up directing our life. You would know the old saying, that “a thought reaps an action, an action reaps a habit, a habit reaps your character and your character reaps your destiny”. What you will become starts with what you think. Think negatively and you can be sure that you will see a negative outcome in your life. But thank God, the opposite is true and I invite you to take this step today. Set in motion the course of your life by what you think. If you don’t understand this, you will allow circumstances to direct your life. You have to learn to rise above your circumstances. Not only to keep your head above water and barely make it, but to walk on water and overcome every obstacle, this is the abundant, the fruitful life! Do you want it ? Start changing the way you think, and do it today ! It takes 30 seconds to make an adjustement. Decide to change today and you will take the necessary steps to make it happen. If you just go with the flow, you are heading towards a big disaster, it’s time to take control of your life!

Your mind is a real battlefield, there is a war going on inside of you. What side will you be on? If you entertain negativity, it is likely that it will win the battle of your mind. No, you are in control and it should not happen. Often we conform to the thought patterns that we inherited from our parents, many will argue that we are the product of our upbringing, our education. There are also all the wounds and the pain that life may bring, these too have a direct influence on how we think and what we think. Words spoken against us, by our family, our teachers, people we grew up with, these words have acted like seeds germinating in us; fully grown they produce a bitter fruit in us. Well, it’s time to uproot this bad tree, it’s time to plow the land of your mind and to sow good seeds, that will produce good fruit, and it’s not too late for that!    

It is essential to understand how you see yourself. Many people suffer from low self-esteem because of painful experiences such as rejection or abuse. But most of the time we don’t even know why we form these negative thoughts. The reason why we fail to identify the origin of negative behavior or negative thinking is that most of the time this origin is spiritual.

First of all, I would like to clarify one thing. The symptoms we have mentioned above like sadness, depression, low self-esteem, result from a disease of the soul. Until the soul is restored, there is no hope of complete healing. I will therefore speak here at two different levels. I will address the regenerated man as well as the unregenerated one. Let me explain. There is a spiritual principle that needs to be understood. The world we live in is a broken and fallen world. It does not function the way it should. It is broken, it has lost its integrity, it is corrupted. It is the spiritual principle of the Fall we are talking about. In the beginning everything was good and in tune with the divine. Man and woman lived together in harmony between themselves and with the divinity. They where whole, complete, spiritually, emotionally and physically. It is after breaking this spiritual principle that they have fallen and taken with them the rest of the created order. The relationship has been broken, a gap has been created between mankind and the divine being. By losing our connection with the spiritual realm we also have lost touch with ourselves. We cannot connect with our emotions the way we want to. That is why even before thinking of learning how to deal with your thoughts and emotions you have to realign yourself with the spiritual reality, there is no other way. It is time to understand that the invisible, the spiritual realm, is in fact more real than the world we can see and touch. Furthermore, it is at the root of everything. So if you want to live a victorious life, you’d better start living your life acknowledging this reality.

Once reconciled with God, man can be fulfilled and be free to be everything he dreamed he could be. Now it is possible to live in a new freedom, the chains are broken, but he needs to learn how to walk in this new freedom. Perhaps are you in the same situation. You have experienced the new birth, you have been set free, received a new spirit and yet you are still living in bondage, prisoner of your fears, taken as hostage by your thoughts.

It is time to replace these old forms of thinking with new ones, to renew your mind. Stop considering yourself a failure, stop thinking that if it did not work in the past it will never work for you. Do not dwell in the past, there is something new ahead of you! The past can no longer dictate you what to do or what to think. The old has gone and the new has come, all things have become new!

You have to start shifting the focus from your perspective to God’s perspective. You have to see yourself the way he sees you. And it is, like his child. You are loved, accepted, forgiven and you have received favor. The “reality” of your circumstances seem to say otherwise, but it is because your present circumstances are the result of the thoughts you have been thinking up to this point. Change the way you think and you will see that the world around you will change too.

It is time to start scanning your thoughts, not to allow anything negative or destructive to dictate you. It is time to say “Stop! I don’t want to think like that anymore!” and to replace this “stinking thinking” with new pure, positive, constructive thoughts.

It is all by Grace and if you are not yet a child of God I would encourage you to take a step of faith towards him. If you focus on how big he is you will soon find out that your problems are not so impossible to overcome.

May you find in Jesus this hope. He is the only one who promises a water that truly quenches your thirst, the living water. You can only go so far trying to achieve these things yourself, but it is only with the help of the Holy Spirit you will truly experience freedom and fullness of life. If you are searching, I would say to you, stop searching, the answer is yes and the time is now. He is the way, the truth and the life. Make a step of faith and get to know him today.

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Surely, there is a way

I find that all these websites on personal development, self-improvement, motivation, have one thing in common, at the center is the ego, in fact, the exaltation of the ego. What they offer seems attractive at first, but in the end is dangerous, and even destructive. Let me explain.
You find at the core of the belief-system that supports these types of teachings a dangerous ideology. There is nothing wrong with wanting to be a better person, to improve your performance, to generally be a happier, healthier and more fulfilled person. Unfortunately, too often these ideals are presented in a way that is so centered on self-fulfillment and self-satisfaction that it is somewhat damaging to us and to others.
Nothing new under the sun, as these so-called New Age teachings are not new at all but find their roots in ancient philosophies and paganism. Buddhism, Zen are at the basis of this movement that is better known under the term New-Age. In a nutshell, they shift the focus from the Creator to the Creature. Since there is no Personal Infinite God, I am free to worship the elements, or the created order. Sun worship or this recent exaltation of Nature are linked in a sense. I become part of this creation with which I can connect. There is a spirituality that lies on how to tap into these infinite sources of energy. The bottom line here is : what can I get for my life? What is there for me? Being in tune with “Mother Nature”, or learning or to tap into fields of “energy” to increase my power and influence over others, these are recurrent themes that you’ll find on these websites.
What it really means is this : how can I become more powerful, more successful, how can I dominate others, or can I become my own God? There is no God, they say in their hearts, or rather, I am God, I am my own God.
It is the age-old lie of the serpent of old : “you will be like God, you eyes shall be opened.”
Genesis 3.4 But the serpent said to the woman, “You will not surely die. 5 For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”
It’s an old lie and yet we still believe it. Like Gods! Able to become what we always wanted to be. We will have knowledge, we will be “enlightened”, we will have wisdom, power, authority. But seriously, who would trust a snake? Are we ignorant of his schemes? The snake cannot and will not be our friend, sooner or later it will bite, and the terrible effects of its venom will be felt. We’ll pay the price for allowing the snake to stay a little bit too close; really we should have crushed its head, but its voice was so seductive, so hypnotic, and it stirred up all these desires in us that we waiting to be awakened.
And yet we still have this burning desire on the inside. Surely, there must be more than this, more to life than the mundane, the material and natural realm. There is a craving inside of us for a deeper spiritual fulfillment, a desire for eternity placed within us. How to find a way out? Who would deliver of this wretched body of mine? Outside I’m decaying but inside something is alive that doesn’t want to die. Eternity! There must be something behind the veil, surely there is a way.
We’ll explore these possibilities in this blog and will offer an alternative voice to these empty claims. There is a way. Follow us on our journey.

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